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gwen: and -- we remember nelson mandela. >> there's mr. mandela, mr. nelson mandela, a free man taking his first steps into a new south africa. gwen: covering the week, jackie calmes of the "new york times," michael fletcher of "the washington post," and david wessel of "the wall street journal." >> award-winning reporting and analysis covering history as it happens. live, from our nation's capitol, this is "washington week" with gwen ifill. corporate funding for "washington week" is provided by -- we know inw-up, cyber world, threats are always evolving. we were protecting networks, then we were protecting the transfer of data, today, it's evolved to , finance, and military missions. constantly innovating to advance the front line in the cyber battle wherever it takes us. of performance. northrop grumman. additional corporate funding for "washington week" is provided by prudential. providedl funding is annenbergndation foundation, corporation for broadcasting and contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. once again, live from
gwen: and -- we remember nelson mandela. >> there's mr. mandela, mr. nelson mandela, a free man taking his first steps into a new south africa. gwen: covering the week, jackie calmes of the "new york times," michael fletcher of "the washington post," and david wessel of "the wall street journal." >> award-winning reporting and analysis covering history as it happens. live, from our nation's capitol, this is "washington week" with gwen ifill....
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mr. mandela became a living martyr. so he had the power beyond that. mr. gandhi was killed. dr. king was killed. he survived years beyond his imprisonment and became this huge global moral authority. and against the odds of being considered a terrorist. to go from considered a terrorist to moral authority, the most in the world world, i think about how long the world kept mr. mandela on the terrorist list, until july 2008. that's a source of shame to us. leadership led by the people like robinson and roger wilkins and holmes-norton. they laid the groundwork for his freedom. he always suppressed appreciation. >> may i ask you the last time you met with him and when you left if you got a sense that it would be the last time. >> it was difficult for him to hear at that time. he came to have a meeting. we took pictures together. we laughed. and i asked him about the farm where he finally was captured. and he said something interesting. he changed gears. he said, you know, that was the place i was captured. not full of regrets. and i didn't understand that. he said he became the comm
mr. mandela became a living martyr. so he had the power beyond that. mr. gandhi was killed. dr. king was killed. he survived years beyond his imprisonment and became this huge global moral authority. and against the odds of being considered a terrorist. to go from considered a terrorist to moral authority, the most in the world world, i think about how long the world kept mr. mandela on the terrorist list, until july 2008. that's a source of shame to us. leadership led by the people like...
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mandela. mr. obama often noted privately and publicly that his sacrifices would never compare to mr. mandela's. aide to mr. obama said he was uncomfortable when people drew parallels between them as often as they did. this is from "the new york time times", not "the washington post." i apologize. how fair are those comparisons? they are inevitable and now we're going to continue to read and hear more about them over the next few days and weeks. how fair are they? >> it depends on which mr. mandela you're talking about. >> and which mr. obama you're talking about. >> one of the things that we talk about is mr. mandela as a tremendous humanitarian leader and so on. and he really was. but he was also a politician. and he also had to hold together a coalition, find the way to steer his country forward as the first black representative in that democratically elected government. in that way, they do have a great deal in common. you do see a very nervous and frightened group of white south africans wonde
mandela. mr. obama often noted privately and publicly that his sacrifices would never compare to mr. mandela's. aide to mr. obama said he was uncomfortable when people drew parallels between them as often as they did. this is from "the new york time times", not "the washington post." i apologize. how fair are those comparisons? they are inevitable and now we're going to continue to read and hear more about them over the next few days and weeks. how fair are they? >> it...
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mr. mandela's body is being prepared now for his lying in state. that will happen late they are week. on tuesday, there will be an official memorial service, then there will be a state funeral on sunday in the village where he grew up. >>> number four, mexican police have recovered stolen radioactive material and are grilling six men who may be connected to the theft. the men tested negative for any poisoning from that material. they're now in police custody. mexican authorities say they've recovered all of the lost cobalt-60 material, but they've been tight-lipped about whether they've made any arrests in the broader case. >>> services will be held today in hawaii to mark the 72nd anniversary of the japanese attack on pearl harbor. lots of veterans and survivors are angry that the traditional missing-man flyover, you saw one there, has been cancelled this year. because of military budget constraints. >>> blockbuster jobs report for november. >> yeah. >> and it could not have come at a better time really for president obama. he's not had a lot of g
mr. mandela's body is being prepared now for his lying in state. that will happen late they are week. on tuesday, there will be an official memorial service, then there will be a state funeral on sunday in the village where he grew up. >>> number four, mexican police have recovered stolen radioactive material and are grilling six men who may be connected to the theft. the men tested negative for any poisoning from that material. they're now in police custody. mexican authorities say...
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bush and mrs. bush. >>> another former president is remembering mandela today. president bill clinton, who talked with the anchor of this week, co-anchor of good morning america, george stephanopoulos. >> he once told me that he lived on hatred, when he went into prison. he said after 11 years he realized that they had taken about everything they could take from him except his mind and heart. he said, i realized that those are things you have to give away, and i decided not to give them away. >> mahatma gandhi, abe lincoln, george washington. he belongs in that group. >> he does. you know, in my lifetime, gandhi and mandela, in no small measure, because of their willingness to give up the comforts of ordinary life, they symbolize the world we'd all like to live in, if we could just be a little bigger, if we could be a little more like them. >> president clinton with george stephanopoulos, president clinton once asked mandela if he still hated his oppressors, mandela answered, no, they had me 27 years in prison, if i hated them when i walked out the door, they wo
bush and mrs. bush. >>> another former president is remembering mandela today. president bill clinton, who talked with the anchor of this week, co-anchor of good morning america, george stephanopoulos. >> he once told me that he lived on hatred, when he went into prison. he said after 11 years he realized that they had taken about everything they could take from him except his mind and heart. he said, i realized that those are things you have to give away, and i decided not to...
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president and mrs. obama will be there to pay their respects. he just wrapped up an interview with former president bill clinton who shared his memories with the late leader. >> he talked to me in that t prison cell as we grabbed the bars and looked out together about what it was like. s and i said tell me how this changed you. how did you give up 27 of the he best years of your life and come out a betterer man than when yo went in? . he said tihe realized they cou take everything from me except my mind and my heart. those things i had to give them and he decided not to give them away. he was free before he was released. >> tributes have been pouring in over the last 24 hours. >> we have lost one of the mosta influential, courageous and profoundly good human beings anu of us will share time with on this earth. >> it's extremely sad and tragic news. we're just mireminded what an extraordinary and inspiring mana nelson mandela was and my thoughts and prayers are with him and his family right now. >> today is a costolo. a costo low. a low, low. but
president and mrs. obama will be there to pay their respects. he just wrapped up an interview with former president bill clinton who shared his memories with the late leader. >> he talked to me in that t prison cell as we grabbed the bars and looked out together about what it was like. s and i said tell me how this changed you. how did you give up 27 of the he best years of your life and come out a betterer man than when yo went in? . he said tihe realized they cou take everything from me...
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mandela back in 1990. i want you to tell people because you were literally star struck. >> i absolutely was. i've been blessed to be around some phenomenal people, some great leaders, but there's no one like nelson mandela. so yes, the first time i was in his company was immediately after we had organized a glorious ticker tape for him parade down broadway in manhattan. we took him into city hall in new york, and had found myself alone with him in the mayor's office. and i didn't realize that i had been just staring at the man for probably ten minutes till i heard a voice say, excuse me, young man. can i trouble you for that glass of water. i realized that he had probably asked me several times for some water after being out in the heat and this long parade. i raced, got him the water and darn near spilled it all over him, i was so incredibly nervous and in awe of him. even though when you were around him, you were in awe, there was something about him that will created an accessibility, too. i never exper
mandela back in 1990. i want you to tell people because you were literally star struck. >> i absolutely was. i've been blessed to be around some phenomenal people, some great leaders, but there's no one like nelson mandela. so yes, the first time i was in his company was immediately after we had organized a glorious ticker tape for him parade down broadway in manhattan. we took him into city hall in new york, and had found myself alone with him in the mayor's office. and i didn't realize...
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our country from the president to the mr. president, every day citizens right now our country is mourning the loss of mandela, remembering the life he lived the way he changed the world. our country in the western world wasn't always this united in viewing mandela as a hero. a part tied, apartness in the africano language, they were voted into office in south africa in then 48. they set about passing a series of impressive laws of racial segregation. they western considered citizens. in 1960 when drarts went to the police station in the black town of sharpville and redanded to be arrested, they were protesting the node to have them in the first place. in response to that small act of rebellion, south african police officers opened fire on the crowd and scene people were killed that day. the young liberation leader named nelson mandela said it was that moment that radicalized him in the fight against apartheid, to beat the anc, it wouldn't be long before he was arrested and convicted of treason and sent away to prison for life
our country from the president to the mr. president, every day citizens right now our country is mourning the loss of mandela, remembering the life he lived the way he changed the world. our country in the western world wasn't always this united in viewing mandela as a hero. a part tied, apartness in the africano language, they were voted into office in south africa in then 48. they set about passing a series of impressive laws of racial segregation. they western considered citizens. in 1960...
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stunned to see you support this scumb scumbag, mr. cruz. he was a communist, a huge supporter of abortion. putting him in the same language of stalin, fdr, who are also dead and don't deserve a eulogy either. what does that tell us about the generations reflecting on this? >> shocking comments. these are ted cruz's ostensible supporters. how incredibly disturbing must it be for americans to read that, to say this is -- this vein of political thought, however large or small it is, exists in our country. >> i hope it's disturbing to us. >> i hope so. >> i'm mostly disturbed that maybe it isn't disturbing to us. >> obviously americans who agree with it, they're out there. i can't imagine it's a very large population, but it saez lot about people have asked for a long time what's the racial perspective of tea party members. unfortunately this is the perspective of some of them. >> remember, where you started the conversation about dr. king, i was radicalized partly, and that's ral caddized in a student protest contest, but radicalized or politi
stunned to see you support this scumb scumbag, mr. cruz. he was a communist, a huge supporter of abortion. putting him in the same language of stalin, fdr, who are also dead and don't deserve a eulogy either. what does that tell us about the generations reflecting on this? >> shocking comments. these are ted cruz's ostensible supporters. how incredibly disturbing must it be for americans to read that, to say this is -- this vein of political thought, however large or small it is, exists...